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		<title>By: cidwrites.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Blog Round-Up Week 11</title>
		<link>http://sjaejones.com/blog/2010/whats-the-story/comment-page-1/#comment-1133</link>
		<dc:creator>cidwrites.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Blog Round-Up Week 11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 16:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] just started following JJ, and I&#8217;m already glad I am!  In her blog, What&#8217;s the Story? she talks about story vs issues and touches on some of the topics of race that I&#8217;ve seen [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] just started following JJ, and I&#8217;m already glad I am!  In her blog, What&#8217;s the Story? she talks about story vs issues and touches on some of the topics of race that I&#8217;ve seen [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Jane (Untangling Tales)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy Jane (Untangling Tales)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand the distinction you make here.

My example is from the picture book world:

There is a book called &quot;What&#039;s wrong with Timmy?&quot; or something like that. It&#039;s a watercolor-wash book *about* downs syndrome using a little boy named Timmy as the reason to talk about DS.

What I&#039;m trying to write (and I hope I&#039;m close) is a story about a girl with DS that explains nothing *about* DS, just tells an incident/adventure in her young life, like any other good picture book.

A good (picture book) example of what I&#039;d like to do is &quot;Marc Just Couldn&#039;t Sleep&quot; by Garbiela Keselman and Noem Villamuza.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand the distinction you make here.</p>
<p>My example is from the picture book world:</p>
<p>There is a book called &#8220;What&#8217;s wrong with Timmy?&#8221; or something like that. It&#8217;s a watercolor-wash book *about* downs syndrome using a little boy named Timmy as the reason to talk about DS.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m trying to write (and I hope I&#8217;m close) is a story about a girl with DS that explains nothing *about* DS, just tells an incident/adventure in her young life, like any other good picture book.</p>
<p>A good (picture book) example of what I&#8217;d like to do is &#8220;Marc Just Couldn&#8217;t Sleep&#8221; by Garbiela Keselman and Noem Villamuza.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
		<link>http://sjaejones.com/blog/2010/whats-the-story/comment-page-1/#comment-1104</link>
		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have problems with literary novels that are &quot;about&quot; something. (Remember, you&#039;re talking to a Joyce nerd.) I have problems with &quot;problem novels&quot;, some of which may be literary. Many are not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have problems with literary novels that are &#8220;about&#8221; something. (Remember, you&#8217;re talking to a Joyce nerd.) I have problems with &#8220;problem novels&#8221;, some of which may be literary. Many are not.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
		<link>http://sjaejones.com/blog/2010/whats-the-story/comment-page-1/#comment-1103</link>
		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I make a distinction between story and plot. I won&#039;t lie; I do prefer plot-driven novels.

Here&#039;s how I draw the line. I&#039;ll take THE GREAT GATSBY as an example.

Story: A self-made man chases the memory of thwarted love, only to be disappointed in the reality.

Plot: Nick moves to New York City where he reconnects with an old school friend named Gatsby. Gatsby throws a few expensive parties to lure in his old sweetheart Daisy, now married to a rich man named Tom. Tom is unfaithful, so Daisy uses Gatsby to get back at her husband, although her &quot;affair&quot; with Gatsby goes nowhere. Daisy murders Tom&#039;s mistress. Tom murders Gatsby. 

The story is &quot;about&quot;: Money (old vs. new), class, jealousy, desire, etc. etc. etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I make a distinction between story and plot. I won&#8217;t lie; I do prefer plot-driven novels.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s how I draw the line. I&#8217;ll take THE GREAT GATSBY as an example.</p>
<p>Story: A self-made man chases the memory of thwarted love, only to be disappointed in the reality.</p>
<p>Plot: Nick moves to New York City where he reconnects with an old school friend named Gatsby. Gatsby throws a few expensive parties to lure in his old sweetheart Daisy, now married to a rich man named Tom. Tom is unfaithful, so Daisy uses Gatsby to get back at her husband, although her &#8220;affair&#8221; with Gatsby goes nowhere. Daisy murders Tom&#8217;s mistress. Tom murders Gatsby. </p>
<p>The story is &#8220;about&#8221;: Money (old vs. new), class, jealousy, desire, etc. etc. etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Katranna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katranna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmm... I&#039;m not so sure about this distinction. What it tells me is that, even though you say it&#039;s &quot;not about plot,&quot; your preference is for plot-driven novels. I should think that many figurative, literary novels that have nothing to do with exploring race or any other hot-button issue would still fall under the &quot;the story&#039;s about&quot; rather than &quot;what&#039;s the story&quot; heading.

Any sort of &quot;day in the life&quot; or &quot;exploration of character&quot; novel in which nothing really *happens* would fall under &quot;the story is about____ (modern ennui, coming to terms with disappointment of naive expectations, finding your place in the world, finding you have no place in the world, etc).&quot;  And I don&#039;t think those novels are somehow &quot;worse&quot; because they are not story-driven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm&#8230; I&#8217;m not so sure about this distinction. What it tells me is that, even though you say it&#8217;s &#8220;not about plot,&#8221; your preference is for plot-driven novels. I should think that many figurative, literary novels that have nothing to do with exploring race or any other hot-button issue would still fall under the &#8220;the story&#8217;s about&#8221; rather than &#8220;what&#8217;s the story&#8221; heading.</p>
<p>Any sort of &#8220;day in the life&#8221; or &#8220;exploration of character&#8221; novel in which nothing really *happens* would fall under &#8220;the story is about____ (modern ennui, coming to terms with disappointment of naive expectations, finding your place in the world, finding you have no place in the world, etc).&#8221;  And I don&#8217;t think those novels are somehow &#8220;worse&#8221; because they are not story-driven.</p>
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